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The NBA REALIST on the Bruce Blitz Show Tonight! 11 PM Eastern/8 PM Pacific

The NBA Realist reemerges from his labyrinth and will participate in a 4-person round table discussion/debate tonight on the Bruce Blitz show at 11 PM Eastern/ 8 PM Pacific. Click here to listen:

UPDATE: You can listen to the archived show here

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39 Responses to “The NBA REALIST on the Bruce Blitz Show Tonight! 11 PM Eastern/8 PM Pacific”

  1. I can’t wait! My fav analyst LIVE!

    Posted by Mike | April 12, 2012, 10:24 am
  2. Im usually in the chat ..Ill listen tonight, I would like to see gil merkin jourdan , brown mamba and boyer all call in that show and spout their kobe nonsense and see what happens.

    Posted by samtotheg | April 12, 2012, 11:06 am
  3. Ugh Bruce Blitz… ignoramus.

    I think I agree more with (and respect more) Steve Kerr’s opinion on Kobe more than I do Bruce Blitz’s.

    “…the fact is, there are facets of Kobe’s game that are better than Michael’s – in particular, dribbling and perimeter shooting. Michael was more explosive, and he’s by far the greatest player ever, but in baseball parlance, Kobe’s “stuff” might be a little better.”

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=sk-mailbag033007

    Posted by Gil Meriken | April 12, 2012, 1:52 pm
    • “Ugh Bruce Blitz… ignoramus.”

      Easy, Gil. I don’t agree with everything Blitz says in his videos, but you’re not exactly a shining example of impartiality.

      Posted by The Realist #2 | April 12, 2012, 2:40 pm
  4. Blitz … the same guy who tries to convince people that MJ faced the same types of double and triple teams that Kobe faces today.

    Please tell him that there is a difference between double teaming the man when he has the ball, and doing it when he doesn’t have the ball. It wasn’t illegal to double team back then, but it was illegal to leave your man if he didn’t have the ball. Today, you can leave your man (as long as you don’t stay in the key for more than 3 seconds – if your man is not in the key), and that gives a huge advantage to help defenders.

    And yes, there is no hand checking today. But that would have hurt MJ on the defensive end as well as it helped him on the offensive end.

    Posted by Gil Meriken | April 12, 2012, 1:59 pm
    • Yeah because Kobe gets doubled off the ball so much…

      Posted by pointguard40 | April 12, 2012, 6:01 pm
      • He actually does. He often is standing out on the perimeter without the ball early in the shot clock, and there’s a 2nd man right on him. The nets did this for most of the game against him, especially in the 4th when they played a few weeks ago, and most teams did it at least somewhat during the game.

        I don’t think most statheads fully understand the value of the double team. Lebron is occasionally doubled but not consistently, and rarely when he’s out on the perimeter since he doesn’t have a consistent outside shot, which is usually where he begins his moves. The lack of a double makes it extremely easier for a player to be successful.

        Looks like the heat did well tonight. Korver’s killing them.

        Posted by boyer | April 12, 2012, 8:06 pm
        • “I don’t think most statheads fully understand the value of the double team.”

          You’ve reached a new low with your ignorance.

          Posted by The Realist #2 | April 12, 2012, 8:26 pm
        • Also, you DO know that it’s not practical to double players who can consistently find wide-open teammates for shots, right? Especially when FGs go up when a players/teams get open looks?

          Should I or PointGauard40 even bother arguing these fundamental concepts of the game with you?

          Posted by The Realist #2 | April 12, 2012, 8:37 pm
          • Your right, teams are consistently double teaming a 43% shooter off of the ball. I suppose us “stat heads” haven’t watch enough ball to understand that double teaming off the ball is bad for your defense because of the advantages it gives the other teams offense. Should I assume you also think us stat heads simply open up a box score once the game is over and never actually watch a broadcast? IF (and thats a BIG “IF”) teams have ever doubled Kobe off the ball consistently, they wouldn’t be doing it now, they would have done it in his prime when he was all the Lakers had.

            Posted by pointguard40 | April 12, 2012, 9:11 pm
        • By the way: (All information from Hoopdata.com)

          10-15 feet:
          Kobe: 41.7%
          Lebron: 46.9%

          15-23 feet:
          Kobe: 42.0%
          Lebron: 39.0%

          3FG%:
          Kobe: 29.9%
          Lebron: 35.9%

          “Lebron is occasionally doubled but not consistently, and rarely when he’s out on the perimeter since he doesn’t have a consistent outside shot”
          Maybe us “stat heads” just don’t jump to general biased conclusions because it’s what we want to believe. Lebron has been a much more consistent outside shooter this season. Kobe doesn’t get doubled off the ball very much, nobody does. Take your B.S. somewhere else.

          Posted by pointguard40 | April 12, 2012, 9:26 pm
          • It’s too easy with you.

            Unrealist, your comments suggest you rarely watch games. Kobe consistently passes well out of double teams. Watch Pau for a few games. Most of his shots are wide open looks, especially on the perimeter. When he does choose to go to the low block, which is rare this year, he faces single coverage and is almost never double teamed. These are a few reasons among others why Pau shoots a higher pct. If Pau was the one drawing double teams and passing to a wide open Kobe, etc.(role reversal), each of their shooting pct. would be much different.

            You’re both delusional if you think lebron draws more doubles than Kobe. Nobody’s arguing the shooting pct., but shooting against tough contest vs. wide-open jumpers is quite different, and anyone who has played basketball before can contest that.

            You can’t accept that Kobe still is great enough to draw this type of defensive attention, but this is what is happening still in his 16th year. I’m not one of the coaches, but that’s what they’re doing. Lebron has improved his outside shot over the years, but he’s still a liability out there as well as wade. I guess coaches look at more than the shooting pct. in order to dictate how they coach.

            Posted by boyer | April 12, 2012, 9:43 pm
          • “Unrealist, your comments suggest you rarely watch games.”

            The fnuny thing is that I wasn’t even talking about Kobe with my post. All I simply said was that you’re not going to send as many doubles to players to players who is as capable of finding the open man as making the shot himself (and also players who are good at making high% shots at the rim and getting to the line). That statement was about LeBron James.

            Kobe isn’t a bad passer. Actually, he is a good one – but he is not as willing of a passer and he’s also not as adept as getting into the lane and getting to the line. And even still, teams don’t foolishly send regular doubles to Kobe because of the two talented bigs underneath who can score. That opens up plenty of opportunities for Kobe on the perimeter. He is assisted on a lot of his baskets, even more than players like LeBron.

            Also, drawing doubles isn’t necessarily/always a badge of honor. Teams actually LIKE to double Andrew Bynum on occasion because he is still learning to punish defenses by getting the ball to the open man. So you can kindly stop posting about double teams and other people apparently not watching the games, because you are clearly a misinformed poster.

            Posted by The Realist #2 | April 12, 2012, 10:35 pm
          • Great – instead of simply posting simple FG%, please read and try to absorb something from this:

            http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Goldsberry_Sloan_Submission.pdf

            Posted by Gil Meriken | April 13, 2012, 2:02 pm
      • It’s not necessarily about “doubling”, although that happens, it’s being able to shift and tilt your defense towards a specific player because of the new defensive rules. Even half a step makes a HUGE difference in covering ground for a help defender.

        Posted by Gil Meriken | April 13, 2012, 2:05 pm
  5. This is awesome!

    Posted by William | April 12, 2012, 6:31 pm
  6. The NBA Realist is killing it!

    Posted by Brown Mamba | April 12, 2012, 9:06 pm
  7. For everybody who hasn’t yet, visit blitzsportsnetwork.com, hoopscritic.com, and keep visiting here for all your basketball/sports info! Keep these guys going!

    Posted by pointguard40 | April 12, 2012, 9:56 pm
  8. @Boyer, so are you trying to tell me that every single shot Lebron takes is “wide-open” and all of Kobe’s are contested? Give me a break. And I’m pretty sure you’d be delusional to think that Kobe is drawing more double teams than Bynum or Gasol have this year. Do you even watch the games?

    Posted by pointguard40 | April 12, 2012, 9:59 pm
    • Did I say that? No. Lebron does draw his fair share of doubles, but not to the extent that Kobe does.

      This is the first year that Bynum has drawn doubles. Pau rarely has ever drawn many doubles since joining the lakers, and much less so this year as Bynum is being doubling more and Pau is rarely posting up and in the paint. And Bynum is often doubled because he usually commits a TO and can’t beat a double team. He’s getting slightly better against doubles, but still overall ineffective.

      There’s very little reason to ever double a player if that said player can’t score that effectively on his own and from everywhere on the court. Kobe is deadly from everywhere, other than 3 pt. shooting this year, which has fallen off some. Lebron is very streaky and has improved his outside shooting, but still is a liability on the perimeter and still developing a postgame. He scores primarily on drives and fastbreaks. If you clog the paint consistently against him, he won’t nearly be as effective, meaning you don’t have to double team as much as someone who is more effective from everywhere. Also, it’s easiest to double team in the post than on the perimeter, and better for the defense. Meaning, if the defense needs to double team someone 20-25 ft. from the basket, this opens up everything for the offense. This is not a good strategy defensively, but yet defenses routinely do this against Kobe, because it’s better for them than allowing him to be able to go one-on-one.

      Kobe actually is a willing passer usually. But, when the shot clock is down and the double comes, he correctly usually shoots it. Lebron has more FGAs/game over his career than Kobe, so to say Kobe isn’t as willing of a passer as Lebron is incorrect. And Lebron is averaging 8 FTAs/game this year vs. 7.9 for Kobe. So Kobe is actually getting to the line at nearly the same rate as Lebron, even at his advanced age.

      Posted by boyer | April 13, 2012, 11:11 am
      • “He scores primarily on drives and fastbreaks.”

        It’s nearly a 50/50 split between those shots and jump shots. And from the perimeter, he’s out shooting Kobe Bryant, all while being assisted on less of his shots. And by a wide margin. The shot tracker and PBP data straight from nba.com and Basketball-Reference.

        “LeBron has more FGAs/game over his career than Kobe, so to say Kobe isn’t as willing of a passer as Lebron is incorrect.”

        Hold on – are you ACTUALLY going to argue that Kobe is as willing to pass the ball as LeBron James? And by using FGA/game? A stat that’s not even pace adjusted?

        Your act is old, Boyer.

        Posted by The Realist #2 | April 13, 2012, 12:47 pm
        • We’ve already established james shoots a higher pct. than kobe. Much like pau and bynum shoot higher than kobe, and chandler shoots probably the highest pct. in the league. Do you really believe that just because someone shoots a higher pct. that that means they should shoot more often or are a better shooter? As we’ve seen from bynum sans Kobe, his FG pct. is down to .375 in the last 3 games. He’s increased his FGAs, but his shooting pct. dramatically decreased, in large part due to more defensive attention sans Kobe.

          Lebron doesn’t nearly have the amount of pressure/contested shots on the perimeter as Kobe does. Take his last 2 shots in reg. last night: a wide open 3 in the corner(make) and a wide open left wing 18 ft. jumper(miss). No defender was even close to him either time. Do you honestly think Kobe’s man is going to leave him that wide open, and multiple times, and in the final minute of the game?

          Oh no, let’s adjust pace, which is some imaginary formula anyway. It doesn’t work anywhere near that simply. Besides, are either of their teams’ paces over their careers that much different? My pt. being without getting into exact decimal specifics, that for some reason you need to see, is that Lebron shoots at the very least nearly as much Kobe does. Is it that hard to understand for you?

          This is the stigma that you and other fans/most of the media have against Kobe. They think of him only as a selfish gunner, somehow only wanting to win in ‘his way.’ Are you ACTUALLY not understanding this? This is exactly why I question if you watch the games. Nobody’s going to convince you otherwise, you’re in your own little world over there. While passing doesn’t necessarily correlate with assists, Kobe’s led his team in assists for years now. Whenever bynum/pau fight for low-post position early during the possession, kobe almost always gives them the ball. Whenever kobe is doubled early in the possession, he passes out of it. If the opps don’t double him, he then always has the mismatch, so it’s smart for him to try to get a shot off, much like bynum in the post with single coverage should try to get his own shot.

          Posted by boyer | April 13, 2012, 2:01 pm
          • So your sample size for “Lebron doesn’t nearly have the amount of pressure/contested shots on the perimeter as Kobe does” is 2 shots from last nights game? It’s not that Lebron’s defender “left” him and they wouldn’t leave Kobe (which is another BS line) it’s that Lebron’s defender (I believe it was Deng on that possession) was battling for an extremely important rebound, and the offensive board got kicked to him open in the corner. THAT HAPPENS. It’s not because “they don’t fear Lebron’s shot”, it’s because that is a normal occurrence in basketball, and Kobe and Lebron are most likely subject to similar opportunities.
            And as far as shooting percentage goes, I already broke down the statistics for where they shoot, so don’t tell me Lebron shoots a higher percentage simply because he gets to the hole more. I’m also curious, as people do perpetuate this notion that Lebron’s FG% is only higher because he gets to the rim more, as to why getting to the rim is considered a bad thing? It’s a better shot. Fact is Lebron creates better shots for himself than Kobe does because of his athletic ability. That is a good thing! Why do people use that against him?

            Posted by pointguard40 | April 13, 2012, 2:52 pm
          • You need to use more than simple FG% to begin to determine who the best shooters are.

            This study includes a spatially informed data set.

            http://www.sloansportsconference.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Goldsberry_Sloan_Submission.pdf

            The next step would be to incorporated how contested the shots were.

            Posted by Gil Meriken | April 13, 2012, 3:06 pm
          • Gil, I am well-aware of that paper and is nice up-and-coming technology.

            I’m not sure how it’s necessary for the current discussion. I watch the games and know that LBJ isnt running around on hte floor hitting shots from every which where. But he picks his spots well (particularly from the high-post extended areas) and has become and effective shooter from the zones when the driving lanes aren’t available to him. And alot of them are contested with defense.

            Teams rather play him for the drive to the basket of course, but that’s because of his even better effectiveness In the paint area (and finding teaates for shots), not because of a lack of a midrange game.

            Posted by The Realist #2 | April 13, 2012, 3:25 pm
        • “Do you really believe that just because someone shoots a higher pct. that that means they should shoot more often or are a better shooter?”

          I believe that you are a troll who is seeking attention by posting nonsense.

          Do I even need to address this question? Or the rest of your post? I think that PG40′s reply is solid enough.

          Posted by The Realist #2 | April 13, 2012, 3:07 pm
          • “Do you really believe that just because someone shoots a higher pct. that that means they should shoot more often or are a better shooter?”

            Why is that nonsense?

            A simple FG% is not a reflection of the individual shooter’s skill. Nor does it tell you whether a player should shoot more or less.

            Look at the case of Andrew Bynum. With Kobe in the lineup he was shooting upwards of 57%. In three games without Kobe, he is shooting 38%. This is not a mere aberration or coincidence. Likewise Artest is now shooting 62%.

            In both cases you would have taken their FG% and tried to say something about the shooter. But it’s apparent that FG% is about much more than the individual shooter, and as such, should not be used to determine who should be doing the shooting.

            It’s a blatant misinterpretation of the box score stats to say “higher FG% mean you are a better shooter and should get more shots” and vice versa.

            Posted by Gil Meriken | April 13, 2012, 4:04 pm
          • By Artest, I mean Metta World Peace.

            Posted by Gil Meriken | April 13, 2012, 4:05 pm
          • Gil, it’s not usually a nonsense question; but under the context of this discussion it is. I would have resoundly answered no; of course a higher fg% doesn’t necessarily mean someone is a better shooter.

            But Boyer is talking about two players who are among the elite shot-creators in the game and who also like to work from the perimeter. It’s not like I’m making a far-fetched comparison between a role player and Kobe Bryant with regards to shooting.

            Posted by The Realist #2 | April 13, 2012, 4:33 pm
          • @Gil Meriken
            I want to pull some quotes from this paper for you:
            “These Spread visualizations reveal a player’s basic shooting tendencies, but tell us nothing about potency.”

            Kobe Bryant led the league in spread %, but not the range %, Kobe finished 3rd in range %.

            “it is certain that over the last few NBA seasons, Nash and Ray Allen are the most effective shooters from the most diverse court locations”

            I’m not sure if you are trying to make the argument here that Kobe Bryant is the best shooter in the game, or that he is just better than Lebron James. If you are just saying he has been better than James over the past 5 years, then by all means this is relevant. If you are trying to prove he is the best shooter, I don’t know why you brought this up.

            It needs to be stated that these statistics are based off of the years 2006-2011, which do not pertain to the argument I was trying to make that Lebron, this year, is better. There is no doubt in my mind that if you start with numbers from 5 years ago (a prime Kobe vs. a 21-yr old Lebron) that Kobe has been a much better shooter over the course of that time period. But this season? I don’t think so, and the numbers I have provided indicate that to be the truth.

            Posted by pointguard40 | April 13, 2012, 11:43 pm
          • Gil, since you posted the article-what are you trying to prove with this data? That Kobe’s more willing to take a shot from anywhere on the court than anybody else? Because that’s one point nobody disagrees on.

            Posted by Lochpster | April 14, 2012, 3:15 pm
          • @PG40

            The funny thing is that while Kobe has been a better jump shooter than LeBron until recent seasons, a lot of his jumpshots have also been assisted. Assisted shots generally get cleaner looks at the rim (which is why good offenses strive to free up players for open shots as often as possible). While he’s made tough shots over his career, it’s not like he hasn’t gotten his fair share of open shots either. And it’s not a bad thing – but of course it doesn’t fit the Kobe fan’s urban legend of Kobe routinely shooting jumpers over triple teams. Blindfolded. Shooting with his left hand. And while reading from a John Grisham novel in his right hand.

            Posted by The Realist #2 | April 14, 2012, 4:23 pm
          • @ Realist 2

            Although a lot of times assisted shots might suggest open shots I think it is a bit misleading when it comes Mr. Bryant. He’s never had another playmaker (until Ramon Sessions) for the last decade and he’s had a lot of all star/superstar caliber big men but defenses don’t double off Kobe.

            Kobe has been one of the best at catching the ball at the mid-post (and earlier in his career even all the way out to the three point line) and making room with his pivot to have the defense slide off of him just a bit to get enough space to rise up and shoot without dribbling once, or even sometimes dribbling once or twice for that patented pull-up. That’s still an assist for whoever passed it to him but he created that shot for himself and with a defender on him.

            Posted by stillshining | April 14, 2012, 7:34 pm
          • Kobe has always played under a system that utilized several different playermakers though, even if the Lakers lacked a traditional PG until Ramon Sessions.

            I’m just saying that Kobe takes plenty of shots that don’t have the defense draped all over him. Even those shots you described often come as a result of offensive plays (i.e. off a screen or cut without the ball) getting Kobe in spots where he can catch and shoot in rhythm and get good looks at the basket, as opposed to catching an entry pass in the high post against a set defense and creating for himself (which he can also do).

            Posted by The Realist #2 | April 14, 2012, 10:49 pm
  9. Will you post the audio?

    Posted by Lochpster | April 13, 2012, 6:07 am
  10. Haha one of those guys sound a LOT like Phil Jackson.

    Posted by stillshining | April 13, 2012, 4:30 pm

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