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LeBron James vs. Dwyane Wade – Who Should Be The Miami Heat’s Closer?

Updates (5/07/2012)

Special thanks to Rick Reilly for his mention on ESPN.com.

 

So who should be the Miami Heat’s closer? LeBron James or Dwyane Wade??????

I know my vote: Kyra Sedgewick……… It’s gotta be.

How else can we possibly justify being subjected to those insufferable “The Closer” promos these past 10 years that somehow always reared their ugly head during the most important and climactically filled moments of TNT NBA Playoff games? Nothing against Kyra, or her show, but it always baffled me as to why TNT would spend 80% of their annual marketing budget targeting a predominantly male audience with a show whose primary appeal was a 50-year old female detective with gargantuan horizontal lips……If only CBS had thought of this during Game 7 of the 1988 NBA Finals, I’m sure that the ratings for Angela Lansbury’s “Murder She Wrote” would have shot through the roof.

Ok, I digress.

The ongoing question continues that continues to resurface whenever the Miami Heat play a close game is whether LeBron James or Dwyane Wade, should be the closer. And after watching both of them struggle during game winning/game tying shot situations since they joined forces in 2010, the question that we probably should have been asking ourselves is why isn’t Mario Chalmers the closer?

Wade and Lebron have since improved their clutch and crunchtime success rate during the regular season, but still have a tendency to go through their bouts of the ‘your turn, my turn’ during critical moments of the game, which can sometimes cause both the Heat, as well as their opponents, to remain off balance – a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it.

So LeBron James vs. Dwyane Wade: Who should be the heat’s closer? Well, if history is any indicator, the better closer is, and always has been, LeBron James. In fact, it’s not even close.

Our team had an opportunity to conduct an analysis of every 4th quarter playoff game that LeBron James and Dwyane Wade have played since they entered the league in 2003. Whether it is the NBA’s Standard Game Winning/Game Tying Shot Metric (shot attempts with the intent to win or tie in the final 24 seconds of a game during which a player’s team is either tied or trails by three or fewer points) or the 5 in 5 Crunch Time Metric (5 minutes left and no team up by more than 5 points), Lebron James has been statistically superior to Dwyane Wade during the closing minutes of playoff games:

Lebron Wade
Playoff Game Winning/Game Tying Shots 5/12 (41.7%) 2/6 (33.3%)

 

5 in 5 Crunch Time Stat (5 min left, no team up by more than 5). Updated through 7/1/2011 Lebron James Dwyane Wade
FG% 46.1% (70/152) 39.6% (40/101)
EFG% 51.0% 41.1%
TS% 59.3% 50.1%

 

The facts show that Lebron James not only has a better shooting percentage during GW/GT shots (41.7 vs. 33.3), but has also made 3 more total in his career.

More significantly however, Lebron has been substantially better during the last 5 minutes of close playoff games while Wade has struggled. Lebron has made nearly twice as many crunchtime baskets, shot 6.5% higher in FG, nearly 10% higher in EFG, and over 9% higher in TS.

Keep in mind, that ’Closer’ and ‘Crunch Time’ can be defined in many ways, and the Game Winning/Game Tying Shot Metric, as well as the 5 in 5 metric, are only two indicators. However, drastic variability in clutch stats outside of these 2 metrics are rare, and the fact that the disparity is so striking, should not be ignored: LeBron James has simply been more consistently clutch in closing situations, despite his poor performance during the 2011 NBA Finals.

So why is Dwyane Wade perceived to be the more clutch player?

The answer is simple: The NBA Finals. Wade’s remarkable 2006  NBA Finals performance has had an extended shelf life in the minds of NBA fans while his 2011 performance helped to further cement him as a “big game” player, despite the fact that the Heat lost. As such, no one can doubt that Wade has historically brought his ‘A’ game at the highest stage. For this, we cannot completely deny him of his reputation. However, outside of the 2006 Playoffs and 2011 NBA Finals, Wade has actually been abysmal and is 20/62 (32.3%) in Crunch Time situations. In sum, Wade has had to take a tremendous number of  shots in order to get his points during key moments of a ball game. Consistently clutch in the Finals? Yes. Consistently clutch throughout the Playoffs? Not according to the stats.

So where do Heat fans go from here? I have no idea. But I do know this much: Lebron James vs. Dwyane Wade = Emotional Arbitrage. Have at it Heat fans. Only good times to come.

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Discussion

58 Responses to “LeBron James vs. Dwyane Wade – Who Should Be The Miami Heat’s Closer?”

  1. Not based on the stats, I’d take Kobe.

    Posted by Gil Meriken | June 3, 2011, 11:22 am
    • I couldn’t agree more Gil, and the stats actually back you up on this one. The currently constituted Heat are 2-0 vs the Lakers, and at 14/37 (37%) from the field and with totals of 8 rebounds, 9 assists, 7 turnovers and 8 fouls with a net +/- of -17 over 2 games Kobe is a huge reason why. In fact, Kobe missed 2 long jumpers in the final 20 seconds as the Heat pulled away in the one close game. If the Heat could get this kind of production every game, they’d be in great shape.

      To Realist-I once again applaud your ability to bring actual data to your arguments rather than opinions and dogma. I’m always shocked when Lebron doesn’t win one of these statistical comparisons. People still can’t seem to grasp how dominant he is, but when you base your assessments off of actual production, nobody touches him. He’s lead the league in PER the past 4 years, and at 26 he’s already 10th in the league in career win shares among active players (everybody else in the top 20 is 30 or older). He is also perhaps the best defender in the league at the 1-4 positions. Only a few other players have been so dominant for so long-Mikan, Pettitt, Chamberlain, Kareem, Jordan, David Robinson (surprisingly), and Shaq. Pretty impressive company, particularly given that MJ is the only other non-big man. Lebron is the best, most complete player in the game right now and, regardless of how these finals turn out, nobody else is close. Given one possession to score, I will take Lebron and hope the other team has Kobe jacking up a terrible 29 footer like he did in the waning moments against Miami earlier this year.

      Posted by Lochpster | June 3, 2011, 3:22 pm
    • Gil – are you saying Kobe will be playing for the Heat?

      Posted by AndyT | June 5, 2011, 10:19 am
    • Firstly wade has been in once more than Lebron making his average decrease. Secondly Wade has entered the playoffs injured twice including this season. Third Lebron 4 quarter shot perentage in decisive games is 36%. Fourth Lebron James actually has a reputation for failing in the game winning moments. Fifth Wade’s fourth quarter % in decisive games is 53%. Even this current playoff wade is outscoring Lebron in the 3rd and 4th quarters. Wade played amazing last year in the NBA finals where Lebron checked out. It is also worth mentioning that Lebron left cleveland for a better chance to win, how soon we forget that cleveland had the best record in the NBA two seasons in a row. We also forget that In LBJ’s playoff lost to the spurs, celtics, and pistons that HE not the cavs shot below 40% each time acutally below 38% each time, once as low as 34% not just for the fourth but for the game. If LBJ is soooo “clutch” then why was he shooting 35% when his team was shooting above 45% even 50% for some of those series. So how can he say cleveland wasn’t good enough when it was his failure in those series. Wade has already held the heat down in about 5 games this playoffs in the final two quarters.

      Posted by Major | June 5, 2012, 8:28 am
  2. NBA Realist,

    I loathe reading post that seem to compare stats that fail to tell what actually takes place in these games. For one, Dwayne Wade game ending shots in the regular season were not Miami’s first options, they were shots after broken plays that were for Lebron. Perfect example, last night the last two shots D-Wade had were not after the play had broken down or there was not enough time to get a good play off. But if you just take those shots, one of which was a heave, then you can say hey look Wade was 0-2 in the waning seconds and it makes him look like he can’t close. That’s why I disagree with some situational statistics. Secondly, I have to give the keys to the guy who has been there before and has succeeded which is Wade in 06′. You and many people tend follow the same path crowning a guy who has been called the ‘King’ for 8 years yet he has not won it all yet. That seems a bit pretentious to me. Wade is still in the prime of his career and he has took his team to the pinnacle. The closing spot should have been given to him and it should be his to lose. Yes I think Lebron is a becoming a great player but things are earned not given in this league. The guy plays good for two series and everything is forgotten as if he can right the ship that fast. Wade average better than 34 points a game the last time he was in the finals that should not be overlooked because he is still at the top of his game. Not to mention he’s playing the team he torched with the exception of a new cast. So excuse me if i’m not inclined to make my decision on the stat’s you use to support your argument.

    Posted by Bob | June 3, 2011, 1:49 pm
    • Basketball games are not tennis matches. one player cannot win by himself. Wade did not win by himself. Dwayne was on a team that was capable of winning a championship. Until recently, James was not. What exactly do you mean Lebron is finally starting to do great things? Have you not been paying attention the last 5 years. Did you miss the scoring title,the Mvp’s, and leading his team to the best record two years in a row? Didn’t you notice that James is the leading scorer for the Miami Heat as well as the second leading scoring in the league?

      Posted by Eric | June 6, 2011, 5:13 am
      • Individual accolades become great when you put it all together and the end result is a Championship. I have no problem with calling Lebron a great player but at the end of the day D-Wade deserves just as much or more credit because he has shown the playoff metal to get it done on the biggest stage. The guy is 6-0 when the series is 1-1. That’s the kind of stat you should include when talking about a clutch player. He’s in the NBA Pantheon when i comes to scoring in the finals. That’s outweighs any regular season accolade anyone could ever accomplish, IMO. I think most would agree also.

        Posted by Bob | June 6, 2011, 2:52 pm
      • you are my hero… all SOO true.. I love D wade but I am sorry people are making these finals seem like both players entire careers and like nothing else they ever accomplished even matters… LeBron will go down as the best player of all time or second best to MJ

        Posted by Mitchell | June 7, 2011, 2:35 pm
      • funny, you say that he wasn’t on a team capable of winning a championship? but in the same breath, you say they had the best record in basketball, and they made it to the finals when he was in cleveland…

        Posted by jon | February 27, 2013, 9:22 am
        • this line of argument isn’t exactly a canard, but it’s equally unfounded and preposterus … take a good look at WARP (wins above replacement player) for LeBron James in general and, in particular, take a gander at the 2010/2011 Cavaliers record for some knowledge on just how very bad those Cleveland teams were …

          fact 1: LeBron’s teams in Cleveland were unabashedly awful … like all-time bad awful … nobody – NOBODY – even gets to a conference championship series, much less to the NBA Finals, with a starting lineup that includes Sasha Pavlovic, Drew Gooden, Larry Hughes and Big Z, (much less as a 22 year old) … yes, they were swept by the multi-champion Spurs with its prime core intact, but check out the margins of loss … the Cavs could have easily snared a few of those games and made it a much more competitive …

          fact 2: LeBron’s teams in Cleveland often had the best or near-best regular season record in basketball …

          fact 3: LeBron’s teams in Cleveland never won a championship …

          facts 2 and 3 don’t negate the first fact … that Cleveland was leading the league in wins is 100% about LeBron’s overwhelming greatness and 0% about this horseshit assertion (or insinuation) that he had anything close to a decent supporting cast …

          Posted by Ken | February 27, 2013, 9:48 am
        • maybe the “he wasn’t on a team capable of winning a championship” line should be replaced with a “if not for his individual herculean effort to propel a roster full of marginal NBA talent year-after-year into NBA contention, the Cavaliers would have been a doormat the entire time” …

          as i have pointed out elsewhere, LeBron’s WARP value is in the 21 – 23 game territory (MJ in his prime was in the 23 – 25 range) … Kobe, on the other hand, is good for approx. 3 … good x …

          Posted by Ken | February 27, 2013, 9:55 am
          • Where does one find WARP data for NBA players Ken?

            Posted by lochpster | February 27, 2013, 10:26 am
          • i think i answered this question before in one thread or another …

            i capture and distill data from basketball-reference.com into analytic models of my own creation … these are housed in two multi-dimensional database environments, one “street” environment and one typically reserved for pure academic work … in both cases, i’m probably using less than 20% of the capabilities of the tools (we’re talking mostly relational models, anyway) …

            a shortcut for my personal approach, which i have previously cross-checked against, is to simply compare a team’s W/L results in games played / not played by a particular player … if i recall correctly, i found the results of this straightforward approach to be a reasonable proxy for the models i run …

            Posted by Ken | February 27, 2013, 10:52 am
          • http://basketballprospectus.com/card.php?id=jamesle01

            advanced value stats …

            by way of example, many Kobe mythologists argue that Kobe was the best player in basketball during the two years of that data set (2008/2009 and 2009/2010)… still, LeBron’s WARP during that exact two year period was GREATER THAN 2X Kobe’s …

            Posted by Ken | February 27, 2013, 10:59 am
    • Bob, thanks for the read, but I completely disagree.

      By your own example, Lebron also missed 2 “last second heaves” toward the end of Game 2 of the 2011 NBA Finals – yet I still included those in my analysis as well. Moreover, there were several instances during his Cleveland days when Lebron would be relied upon to take shots with the shot clock winding down. Wade is not alone. In the end, these situations balance themselves out in which both Alpha Dogs are required to take difficult shots for their team and there is absolutely no evidence that shows that since 2004, Wade has been put in a more difficult predicaments than Lebron. Yet Lebron success has been substantially higher.

      In my article, I do acknowledge that because Wade has won a Championship, we can provide him with some benefit of the doubt. However, the evidence is overwhelmingly in favor of Lebron. It is not even close. And to dismiss Lebron because he has not won a championship is silly to me. Lebron never had Shaquille O’ Neal as his second best player on Cleveland – Wade did.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | June 6, 2011, 9:11 pm
      • The Realist,

        Your points are noteworthy. Over the past few years Lebron’s teams have been deeper into the playoffs than Wade’s teams for a number of reason. I will give him that. You credit Wade for having Shaq, but please look at Wade numbers in those Finals and you will see that they are some of the greatest EVER (Third highest points per game average). You can make the argument that Lebron as of this moment has been to Wade what Shaq was to Wade in 06 finals.

        I hope i’m not stirring the pot to much. I enjoy reading your post. I just think the gap between Wade and Lebron is a lot closer than you guys make it out to be. Like Wade said after game three, “I’ve been here before.” He knows how to win on this stage so I will take that any day over statistical numbers.

        Posted by Bob | June 6, 2011, 11:13 pm
        • Bob,

          Not at all Bob. We agree to disagree on this site and an alternative perspective is ALWAYS welcome. I appreciate your insight and support.

          There is no doubt that Wade, not Lebron, has been the one to prove his worth on the NBA Finals stage. And if my article were titled “Who should be the Heat’s closer in the NBA Finals“, your points would be even more valid – Wade has been there, Lebron has not. Therefore, why would we choose Lebron over a guy who has already earned his stripes, right?

          However, my article was really more generic and focused on the playoffs in general where Lebron has consistently outperformed Wade. To your point, an argument can be made that the NBA Finals are the highest stage, and Wade has proven his worth, but:

          a.) We haven’t really given Lebron a full series to show us what he can do.
          b.) As previously mentioned, my analysis was really centered around all 4 rounds of the playoffs, not just the NBA Finals.

          It will be interesting to see how the next couple of games play out.

          Posted by The NBA Realist | June 6, 2011, 11:28 pm
    • In other words…Stats are hard to comprehend, me trust own lying eyes…ugh

      Posted by RFN | March 5, 2012, 1:47 pm
  3. Mario Chalmers!

    Posted by How bout the guy who's proven he can hit the big shot? | June 4, 2011, 11:42 am
  4. Lol, it looks like Wade is going to win Finals MVP if the Heat win this series. Look at the stats so far:

    Wade in the Finals:

    3 G
    39.6 mpg
    29.0 ppg
    8.7 rpg
    5.0 apg
    1.33 spg
    1.67 bpg
    34/60 FG (56.7%)
    6/15 3PT (40.0%)
    13/21 FT (61.9%)

    LeBron in the Finals:

    3 G
    43.4 mpg
    20.3 ppg
    6.7 rpg
    6.0 apg
    2.33 spg
    0.33 bpg
    23/45 FG (51.1%)
    7/16 3PT (43.8%)
    8/10 FT (80.0%)

    Dirk in the Finals:

    3 G
    41.5 mpg
    28.3 ppg
    10.0 rpg
    2.3 apg
    0.33 spg
    1.33 bpg
    28/61 FG (45.9%)
    5/9 3PT (55.6%)
    24/24 FT (100.0%)

    LeBron isn’t even the 2nd best player in the series right now.

    Posted by James | June 6, 2011, 7:01 am
    • James, I hate to burst your bubble, but when handing out the Mvp, the entire playoff performances are looked at. This is why Pau Gasol didn’t when the Mvp last year even though he played better in a few games. So, it seems the joke is on you.

      Posted by Eric | June 6, 2011, 8:05 am
      • LOL, you think the whole playoffs is considered when it comes to the Finals MVP? You are joking right?

        And I forgot to talk about what the author wrote. LeBron has been a no show so far in these finals. Wade and even Chris Bosh, and even Chalmers has outplayed him in the closing minutes.

        Posted by James | June 6, 2011, 12:44 pm
        • James,
          You’re absolutely right that James has not been the best player of the series individually, but what’s your point? Sure the difference between good and great players is whether they have it in them to perform when it matters most. But Lebron has actually proven to be great. WHat differs him from other greats (or lessens his career so far) is simply that he has had the misfortune of many top draft picks of being put on the worst team in the league. He really did not have a strong supporting cast at all for his 1st 7 years, which is both why it is so impressive he was able to accomplish what he did (e.g. take a team to NBA finals without another former or current all-star by scoring last 30 in final minutes of 20T upset of defending champions) and why he hasn’t had as much opportunity as other greats to prove himself in the finals . He has done what is necessary to help his team have a 2-1 lead and played strongly on both ends of the court. He led his team to win game 1, was a major part of a breakdown on the parts of himself (and his teammates) and took responsibility for it, and had the game winning assist (one shy of a double double) in game 3. He doesn’t care whether or not he’s MVP, as long as his team wins. Sure Wade has been the better of the 2 in the series so far (though I think Dirk deserves MVP even if the Mavs lose), but Lebron has been far better the first 3 series. People keep saying its all about the big final series, but you got to win 3 first and this is NBA (save it for the Playoffs) basketball. For example, Kobe had the luxury in the past of being able to win playoff games on terrible nights (far worse then any performance Lebron has had) because he had multiple All-star teammates and Lebron never had that luxury. E.g. 2009 game 7 win against ROckets when Battier held Kobe to 14 points (4-12FG%), but his team could not help him out when he was held to 14 in game 1 against the Spurs. But all good players (kobe or Lebron), even on offnights make great plays that are not noted on the stat sheet. Like Wade had several great steals in game 3, but his biggest defensive play was when he doubled Dirk from behind unexpectedly, causing Dirk to panic and throw an errant pass out of bounds (the play before Dirks final miss). That was his BIGGEST play of the game, as were Chris Bosh’s clutch shot and Lebrons (impressive) pass. Another example of Lebron’s versatility, he has completely shut down Jason Terry (as he did Drose and Pierce down the stretch). My guess is they will put him more on Dirk for these next games in the end when Dirk has killed them. Also keep in mind that Lebron has taken 15 less shots than Wade and Dirk this series. He is shooting over 50% from the field (above Dirk, just below Wade) and considering free throw attempts are often in place of FG attempts Lebron is that much closer to Wade in scoring efficiency. Dwade may be the team’s captain and vocal leader, but Lebron is still no doubt the floor general and star of the team. Unless it is a night Wade has almost doubled Lebron in scoring, you want the ball in Lebron’s hands at the end of the game because he is the biggest threat in the league on both ends for any given play. That is defensively he can guard 1-5 and do everything and offensively he is the most dangerous with the ball because his combination of shooting, driving and passing makes him the biggest triple threat. Plus, you want the ball in the hands of your best free throw shooter down the stretch and Wade is 13/21 FT (61.9%) which may as well be the worst on the team. I don’t care how good you’ve been, unless your Shaq, great players make a team pay when their sent to the foul line especially at this stage.

          Posted by keeping it real | June 7, 2011, 3:07 am
          • My point is that LeBron isn’t the best player in the series or the best closer so far. Wade and Dirk have both outplayed him. I am responding to the author’s topic and Wade has been more clutch than LeBron so far.

            Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 4:04 pm
          • pretty sure his point was stated in the first sentence. seems like you have a hard time reading… “Lol, it looks like Wade is going to win Finals MVP if the Heat win this series.”

            also, its called Finals MVP for a reason, not Playoffs MVP.

            Posted by durrrr | June 7, 2011, 9:09 pm
        • LOL, you think the entire playoffs isn’t considered? Did you read and understand the Gasol example? People like you just need to get over your Lebron hate. Just accept that he was on the cover of sports illustrated at 17. Accept that he was picked to be and great player, and he is. Just accept the hummer and the 100 million dollar shoe deal. Go ahead and accept the rookie of the year award, and the mvps, and the scoring title. Just accept the fact that Lebron could quit the game today and be hall of fame bound. Just accept that he is the best player in the league.

          Posted by Eric | June 7, 2011, 3:55 am
          • Agreed

            Posted by keeping it real | June 7, 2011, 3:25 pm
          • List of finals MVPs: 1. Dirk, 2. Wade, 3. Lebron

            List of Playoff MVPs: 1. Lebron and Dirk tie, 2. Bosh, 3. Wade

            Posted by keeping it real | June 7, 2011, 3:29 pm
          • Never in the history of the NBA has a Finals MVP winner won Finals MVP because of what he did outside of the Finals. The Finals MVP is won by the player that performs the best in the NBA FINALS, not the 1st round of the playoffs, 2nd, or ECF.

            You call me a LeBron hater lol? I am listing facts. You seem to be riding LeBron too hard. You are trying to throw in the entire playoffs when judging FINALS MVP.

            Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 3:57 pm
  5. None of this analysis took into consideration their time at the charity stripe. Kobe always takes a jumper, Wade always goes right to the cup, and LeBron puts himself somewhere in between. Wade’s relentlessness in going to the cup and drawing contact for efficient scoring is what makes him such a good closer, though you don’t see it in your analysis.

    Posted by Ragib | June 7, 2011, 4:06 pm
    • Ragib – Thanks for the read, but you are incorrect. True Shooting percentage absolutely takes into account FT% and has been included in the analysis where Lebron has shot 60.5% while Wade has only shot 47.9%. A significant difference.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | June 7, 2011, 4:18 pm
  6. The “Never in the history of the NBA” post was supposed to go to Eric.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 4:08 pm
  7. I got some time to kill right now Might as well respond to that “Pau” example.

    Here are the Finals Stats for the 2010 series.

    Kobe:

    7 G
    41.1 MPG
    28.6 PPG
    8.00 RPG
    3.9 APG
    2.14 SPG
    .71 BPG
    .405% FG
    .319% 3 PT
    .883% FT

    Pau:

    7 G
    41.9 MPG
    18.6 PPG
    11.60 RPG
    3.7 APG
    .71 SPG
    2.57 BPG
    .478% FG
    .000% 3 PT
    .883% FT

    Kobe scored more, assisted more, shot the FT better, and had more steals. Pau rebound more, blocked more, and had the better FG %.

    Yeah, I don’t know what you are trying to say with this “Pau” example.

    The stats show that Kobe outplayed him i nthe finals. And if you actually watched the series, you can see that Kobe outplayed him.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 4:36 pm
  8. It looks like Wade is carrying the team again tonight. LeBron has just been playing horrible aside from a couple of great passes.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 8:43 pm
  9. Bad missed FT by Wade and ball handling in the final 6 seconds of the game. Remember that LeBron missed 2 FTs in a row though when the Heat were up in the 4th.

    Wade has been carrying the team and even Bosh.

    LeBron has to step up.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 9:06 pm
  10. I just want to post updated stats for the series.

    Dwyane Wade:

    4 G
    39.6 mpg
    29.8 ppg
    8.0 rpg
    4.3 apg
    2.00 spg
    1.75 bpg
    1.50 TOpg
    47/80 FG (58.8%)
    6/17 3PT (35.3%)
    19/30 FT (63.3%)

    LeBron James:

    4 G
    44.0 mpg
    17.3 ppg
    7.3 rpg
    6.3 apg
    2.25 spg
    0.25 bpg
    3.50 TOpg
    26/56 FG (46.4%)
    7/19 3PT (36.8%)
    10/14 FT (71.4%)

    Chris Bosh:

    4 G
    39.6 mpg
    18.3 ppg
    6.5 rpg
    1.3 apg
    0.25 spg
    0.50 bpg
    2.00 TOpg
    25/71 FG (35.2%)
    23/29 FT (79.3%)

    Dirk Nowitzki:

    4 G
    40.9 mpg
    26.5 ppg
    10.3 rpg
    2.0 apg
    0.25 spg
    1.00 bpg
    34/80 FG (42.5%)
    5/11 3PT (45.5%)
    33/34 FT (97.1%)

    Shawn Marion:

    4 G
    36.3 mpg
    15.5 ppg
    6.5 rpg
    2.5 apg
    0.50 spg
    1.00 bpg
    2.50 TOpg
    26/50 FG (52.0%)
    10/11 FT (90.9%)

    LeBron isn’t even the 3rd best player in these finals so far.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 10:43 pm
  11. I also wanted to post this interesting stat:

    Dirk has outscored LeBron 44-9 in the 4th quarter.

    Posted by James | June 7, 2011, 11:52 pm
  12. I would like to be the first to dub them with the Brangelina title. Do we go with Debron Wames or Lewayne Jade? I’ve always been a fan of Wade, never cared for Le Ego.

    Posted by Dave | June 8, 2011, 6:02 am
  13. Lebron james has to play with a lot more violence, he was lousy yesterday.

    Posted by jerrodreviews | June 8, 2011, 10:51 am
  14. I want to post the most horrid flops in the finals right now:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foaPMZxtzx4

    Posted by James | June 8, 2011, 11:05 am
  15. LeBron James even with a triple double has failed to show up inte 4th quarter yet again!

    Only 2 points in the 4th quarter and those two points were points that the Mavericks gave to him.

    NEVER compare this guy to Jorda again. Just stop it now.

    Posted by James | June 9, 2011, 8:47 pm
  16. Updated stats:

    Wade:

    5 G
    38.6 mpg
    28.4 ppg
    6.8 rpg
    5.0 apg
    1.6 spg
    1.4 bpg
    2.0 TOpg
    53/92 FG (57.6%)
    7/19 3PT (36.8%)
    29/42 FT (69.0%)

    LeBron:

    5 G
    44.3 mpg
    17.2 ppg
    7.8 rpg
    7.0 apg
    1.8 spg
    0.4 bpg
    3.6 TOpg
    34/75 FG (45.3%)
    7/23 3PT (30.4%)
    11/16 FT (68.8%)

    Bosh:

    5 G
    39.5 mpg
    18.4 ppg
    7.2 rpg
    1.2 apg
    0.2 spg
    0.6 bpg
    2.4 TOpg
    31/83 FG (37.3%)
    30/38 FT (78.9%)

    Dirk:

    5 G
    40.6 mpg
    27.0 ppg
    9.4 rpg
    2.2 apg
    0.4 spg
    0.8 bpg
    3.0 TOpg
    43/98 FG (43.9%)
    6/12 3PT (50.0%)
    43/44 FT (97.7%)

    Terry:

    5 G
    32.3 mpg
    16.2 ppg
    1.8 rpg
    3.4 apg
    1.2 spg
    0.0 bpg
    1.0 TOpg
    27/61 FG (44.3%)
    8/21 3PT (38.1%)
    19/24 FT (79.2%)

    Posted by James | June 9, 2011, 9:54 pm
  17. Another stat:

    Dirk has outscored LeBron in the 4th quarter 52 to 11. Dirk has actually outscored LeBron and Wade combined in the 4th quarter.

    Posted by James | June 9, 2011, 11:13 pm
  18. This closer stuff doesn’t make sense. You got three great offensive weapons- usually the top 3 every night or 3/5- on the floor. To make a single one of those guys THE closer, limits the number of weapons down to one and helps the defense because the other two best weapons are just sitting there and watching.

    They simply need to play better defense, and play the same way they play throughout the game and its a done deal.

    No need to change the whole strategy because there’s a minute left. That’s not what got them to that point, and that’s not what gets them those large 17 point leads that they blow because they start taking bad shots and start deferring to others just to please them.

    Spo just needs to tell them to keep playing TEAM ball and reprimand them for taking kobe-esque bricks.

    Posted by Lorenzo Castillo | January 19, 2012, 3:00 pm
    • Ah what a difference a year makes. The ironic part of this question is that as long as it was a legit question, Miami wasn’t able to mentally focus enough to close out tight games, they were distracted by trying to get enough shots for everyone instead of just letting their big 3 go bring it home. Because this was part of the who’s team is it, which was the far bigger question. Once Wade told Lebron its all yours go get it, Miami got a lot better at closing games. Sometimes it was Wade, sometimes it was Bosh, sometimes it was Lebron, however they all understood that the offense went through Lebron first and if he called for the ball in the 4th it was his.

      The rest as they say is history.

      Posted by nightbladehunter | August 20, 2012, 9:45 am
  19. dwyane wade is better than lebron

    Posted by travon | May 28, 2013, 12:21 pm

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