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Why A Dwight Howard To Chicago Bulls Trade Makes Sense

After days of speculation, false rumors, “advanced talks”, and near-consummated transactions, the Orlando Magic began the 2011-2012 season by serving notice to the league that Dwight Howard would no longer be available for trade. Of course, all this really meant was that suitors needed to come to the table with far better offers than Joe Barry Carroll and a bunch of scrubs. It has become evident to both the Magic, and teams around the league, that Dwight Howard will leave Orlando at the end of this season after declining a long-term extension, thereby placing the Magic in the unenviable position of having to move their franchise player prior to the trade deadline.

Of course, Dwight has certainly been doing his part to expedite the process, offering up his share of uninspired efforts to begin the season, and exhibiting a body language that rivals only my own when I’m out shopping with my wife. In parallel, Howard’s agent, Dan Fegan, has actively attempted to broker discussions with the three teams that are at the top of Howard’s list: the New Jersey Nets, Los Angeles Lakers, and Dallas Mavericks.

However, if Howard truly wants out, his best chance of accelerating a trade will be to provide the Magic with a win/win scenario for all parties involved. This would entail:

a.) Dwight Howard going to a team that resides within a large market, can provide multiple endorsement opportunities, and has a supporting cast that not only offers him an immediate chance to win, but also provides him with multiple opportunities to win in the future.

b.) The Orlando Magic receiving a combination of players that not only enable them to them to build for the future while retaining salary cap flexibility, but also enables them to remain competitive in the present.

c.) Howard’s new team being able to acquire the league’s best center without gutting the core of their team, and maintaining enough of a supporting cast to become both an instant and long-term title contender.

If we accept these criteria to be realistic, then only one questions remains: Why on earth isn’t Dwight Howard pushing for a trade to the Chicago Bulls?

As it stands today, Howard’s first choice is reportedly to go to the New Jersey Nets to play alongside All-Star point guard Deron Williams. The Nets are offering a package that includes Brook Lopez and multiple first round draft picks. The Nets will also be moving into a new state-of-the art facility in Brooklyn next season, and will have a clean slate of salary cap space beginning in the summer of 2013, thereby enabling them to sign a 3rd max (or close to max ) player and forming their own ‘Big Three’. The Nets are owned by Mikhail Prokhorov – a billionaire, international mogul, and willing spender who can offer Howard the benefits of playing in New York, which boasts international fame, endless publicity, numerous endorsements, a 3:1 female-to-male ratio, and a 1:1 neurotic female-to-psychiatrist ratio….. trust me, I learned the hard way.

However, Howard has said that he wants to win now, and outside of Deron Williams, the Nets have very little to offer in the area of a supporting cast for the next 2 years. The Nets have also historically lacked a winning culture, having never won a NBA championship (sorry, the ABA doesn’t count) and having gotten past the second round of the NBA playoffs more than twice. Would Howard really be willing to wait nearly 2 years to rebuild, while banking his future on a franchise that has had a questionable commitment to winning? Moreover, why would Orlando be willing to take on a potentially injury-prone center (given the complications of stress fractures), and a series of draft picks that will likely be on the low end as long as Williams and Howard are still playing?

Howard’s second choice is the Los Angeles Lakers who are reportedly mulling an unofficial offer of Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum. The Lakers are the league’s most successful and celebrated franchise, having demonstrated a commitment towards winning, and a track record of eventually rewarding every one of their dominant centers with a championship ring (Shaquille O’Neal, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, George Mikan). The Lakers can also offer Howard the opportunity to play in a major market alongside one of the greatest players to ever play the game in Kobe Bryant, movie-roles, 65 degree winters, and a 500:1  vapid/shallow female-to-well adjusted female ratio….. trust me, I learned the hard way.

The problem is that the Lakers can only offer Howard temporary success. Kobe Bryant will be closer to 34 once the playoffs start and is on the downside of his career. Moreover, trading both Bynum and Gasol would leave the Lakers extremely talent-deficient, and provide very little flexibility for improvement in the future given the salary cap restrictions under the new CBA, and especially if they have to take on Hedo Turkoglu’s salary as well. Lastly, does Howard really want to follow in the foot steps of his TNT adversary, Shaquille O’Neal, who has continually criticized him for his lack of originality? And given Bynum’s recent resurgence, are the Lakers even willing to trade for Dwight Howard? We certainly know that Pau Gasol alone is not going to be enough to pry Howard away from the Magic, so would the Lakers really be willing to give up both players?

For Orlando, Andrew Bynum gives them the opportunity to acquire a franchise level talent, and second best Center in the league. But would Orlando want to bank their future on Bynum’s balky knees? After all, he has had 3 injuries in the past 4 years and only been able to play an average of 51 games per season.

Last comes the Dallas Mavericks who are able to offer, well…. nothing. I wrote about this in an earlier article, but the Mavs are gearing toward the summer of 2012, which by no coincidence will be their best chance for acquiring not only Dwight Howard, but Deron Williams as well. However, in order for this to happen, Howard will need to make a conscious decision to refrain from signing a long-term extension, regardless of whichever team he is on, and become an unrestricted free agent. And based upon what we saw with the Miami Big Three in 2010, are we really ready to rule any conspiracy theories out?

If not, the Chicago Bulls can offer the best “win/win” package for all parties involved. The Bulls can offer an All-Star caliber center in Joakim Noah (27 years old) who is a double-double guy when healthy, brings a wealth of hustle and intangibles to the table, and is a great team player; Taj Gibson (26 years old) who is a solid double-double guy and already one of the best defensive power forwards in the game; and Luol Deng (26 years old), an All-Star Caliber player who can score 18-20 per game, and has become one of the best defensive small forwards in the game. Most importantly, the Bulls can offer the Orlando Magic the Charlotte Bobcats’ protected number one pick in 2012, which given the depth of the 2012 draft, has the potential to result in a promising young player. This pick becomes more and more valuable as the years go by; Lottery protected in 2012 , top-12 protected in 2013, top-10 protected in 2014, top-8 protected in 2015, and unprotected in 2016. After all, are the Bobcats really going anywhere? The end result is that the Bulls can offer Orlando a better short-term package than the Nets, and a better long-term package than the Lakers, while enabling Orlando to remain competitive, retain cap space, and build towards the future.

If you are Orlando, which package would you prefer?:

Package #1: Brooks Lopez  + multiple low first round draft picks (likely 20-30 range)

Package #2: Andrew Bynum + Pau Gasol (32 years old)

Package #3: Joakim Noah + Luol Deng +  Taj Gibson + High Lottery Pick

The Bulls can offer Dwight Howard (who really holds all of the cards in this game) a better short-term scenario than the Nets and Lakers, and a better long-term scenario than the Lakers. With the Bulls, Howard would get multiple title shots over the next 5-7 years while playing alongside Derrick Rose – the reigning MVP, and one of the 10 best players in the NBA. And while the Bulls will initially sport a lineup of Rose/Hamilton/Howard/Boozer/Asik they will be able to add a significant piece(s) through free agency by amnestying Carlos Boozer (which will happen at some point).

So why won’t Dwight put the Bulls at the top of his list?

Howard has mentioned that he would like to go to a warm weather city, but is Chicago really that much colder than New York? The average low during winter months in Chicago is 22.5 degrees. The average low during winter months in New York is 30.5 degrees. Moreover, Howard would spend 50% of his time traveling during the NBA season anyway. Would Dwight really turn down his best chance at winning for a mere 8 degrees?

There are also reports that because Dan Fegan assisted in negotiating Joakim Noah’s contract with the Bulls, Fegan would be resistant to pushing a trade that included his client? However, we all know that sports agents are ruthless and soulless individuals who force athletes to play injured beyond their prime, date single moms, get attached their nerdy kids, and generate cheesy movie lines that have any unending cable TV shelf-life, right? These guys can do anything, right? If so, why can’t Fegan sell Noah on the lack of state taxes in Florida, proximity to his Alma Matter, and the prospects of playing for the venerable Stan Van Gundy? Ehhh, ok…. probably not, but as I mentioned before, Howard, not Fegan, holds all of the cards, and if he wants to make this deal happen, he can make it happen.

A Dwight Howard To Chicago Bulls Trade makes sense.


54 Responses to “Why A Dwight Howard To Chicago Bulls Trade Makes Sense”

  1. The nets made the finals with Kidd twice…

    Posted by Scott Hermes | January 6, 2012, 8:05 am
  2. This would be a bad trade for the Bulls. You can’t give up Deng. Who would guard Lebron?

    Posted by hank | January 6, 2012, 9:54 am
  3. If Chicago was smart they would be willling to give up anything other then D-Rose to get Howard.

    I think he lands in LA though. I don’t see Orlando trading him to a team they have to play a bunch over the next 10 or so years.

    Also as a Heat fan I hope he doesn’t end up in Chicago.

    OKC would have the pieces to make a trade offer for Howard. I doubt they would but they could. That would be a scary team.

    Posted by nightbladehunter | January 6, 2012, 7:51 pm
    • Dude your an idiot. If Chicago was smart they wouldnt trade ANYBODY! Rose, Deng, Gibson, Noah, Hamiltin…thats the best set of all around starter sin the league. All are All-Stars, Rose is the MVP. The Bulls have something most teams DONT have, and thats Chemistry. a team working together is always better then a few hotshot players. Look at Miami. Didnt win the finals did they w/ their Big 3, eh? Exactly.

      Posted by Tobolt | January 7, 2012, 10:41 am
      • Well they didn’t win the finals but had no problem with the Bulls. Won’t be any different this year either.

        Posted by Milhouse | January 7, 2012, 3:55 pm
      • I agree 100% with or without Howard we can get past the heat as long as Boozer doesn’t choke this time around lol and Deng keeps on improving and Noah keeps on hustling and coach thibs keeps coaching them and MVP Rose continues to be a leader we can do it all!

        Posted by Tito | January 11, 2012, 11:47 am
    • nightbladehunter, thanks for the read.

      I’m not sure I’m 100% sold on your position that Orlando would refrain from trading Howard to a team within the Eastern conference. If they are willing to negotiate with the Nets, then why not the Bulls? I think that Orlando will be compelled to make the best choice for their organization..

      I can’t disagree with you regarding Howard landing in Los Angeles though. Bynum is shaping up to be a monster, and Howard seems to have an attraction for the West coast. With that said, even if Howard were to get traded to Los Angeles, and even if the Lakers would only have to give up Bynum, I think that it would be a good choice for Orlando, but bad for Howard. If I’m Howard, I would rather choose to part of a young core such as Chicago instead of an aging core like the Lakers.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | January 7, 2012, 1:04 pm
      • Nets is not a “threat” the same way as the Bulls would continue to be, and Nets are one of Dwight’s “preferred destinations”–what with his desire to excel in a bigger market and all.

        I disagree that going to the Lakers would be bad. All this talk about a team getting old, let’s analyze what you’re saying or assuming. Great teams aren’t always young, for example why did Tim Duncan win a championship in 2007 when he was 35? I mean, let’s get over the age thing. One thing the Lakers are similar in with the Spurs of that era, they had good wing help, good post up shooting, and a well-formed team, with a commitment to defense. Those who argue that the Lakers are done, or it’s a bad situation right now, are overstating or disavowing the complexity that good teams with good coaching can do. Lebron with a pretty good team that averaged 55+ wins that season, got swept, so who’s to say the Bulls won’t have that happen to them? You can’t guarantee instant success, but with the Lakers at least you can say, they have earned the loyalty of someone like Dwight and put their trust that the team will build a championship contender every single year.

        Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 8:38 am
        • 1.) If the Nets acquired Howard, they would have Deron Williams and an abundance of cap space in 2 years – enough for a 3rd max player. How would they not be a threat?

          2.) Tim Duncan was 31 years old on 2007. Not 35. 31 is not old by NBA standards.

          3.) I never said that the Lakers were “done” I simply said that Kobe was on the downside of his career.


          Posted by The NBA Realist | January 10, 2012, 10:34 am
          • 1.) Assuming B-Lo’s trade value is still intact and they find an additional 3rd party to make a good enough deal for the all-star, then yes they would be somewhat of a threat in the East. But that’s a longshot, as of today. Deron is likelier to leave at the end of the season, or be traded himself (eventhough makes no sense for a team that mortgaged itself for Deron). I just said, assuming they kept Deron, and the circumstances right now, I didn’t take both into account. so in terms of looking into the future, they rather take the Bulls as a threat right now, and would make an already strong eastern conf. rival even stronger. And it makes less sense for Orlando.

            2.) I stand corrected, but Jordan was 35, and Pippen was 2 years younger, Rodman was even older than Michael and the 98 team, even the previous ones since 96, were notoriously averaging above 32. Even so, Dirk was 32 almost 33 at the time he dominated one of the most topheavy teams in recent NBA history, certainly one going forward. So Gasol is 31 as of right now, what does it say in respect to last season, when Gasol’s might have been an aberration when you take into account 3 straight trips to the NBA finals, and him resembling someone older than his age, when he was taking most of the load from when Bynum was injured at the beginning of last season? Likewise, last season’s Lakers team had no bench, which did nothing but expand on the theory that the Lakers are a very old team. I don’t know that this team can’t compete for a title, at least one, if they got Dwight right now. I wouldn’t also say that you’ve guaranteed yourself at least a title with Dwight right away. But I would also say, I think Kobe has a lot left in the tank, in the near future, and in the long-term, would likely be a very strong destination for free agents to be later on.

            3.) Kobe is on the downside of his carreer which only means that the Lakers would be in even more of a hurry to overspend to build around Dwight and Kobe. This is a clear indicator of reading the tea-leaves. Much like Bulls did when they got Dennis Rodman. Kobe is on the downside of his career, but wouldn’t Dwight like to be face of the franchise going forward? And wouldn’t the Lakers have enough, flexibility, to contend even with Kobe nearing the end of his career, and would like to acquire even more all-star caliber players if not all-stars next summer? Wouldn’t L.A. be a destination going forward? And wouldn’t the West be an easier route to take than the east? I know a lot about Dwight not following in Shaq’s footsteps, and Chicago is still a very respectable team to be a part of right now, but it’s not in his radar, which might even be a bad move. But much like Carmelo and Amare left the west to even out the east, Dwight might look at it as a bad sign and instead opt to play in the west, or with his buddy (DWill) in the east.



            Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 1:43 pm
  4. The trade makes sense because D-Rose will beat Miami in the Playoffs this season. Chicago should trade Boozer,Noah,& Lucas to Orlando for D.Howard,R.Anderson, and V.Wafer. D-Rose should average 35 points against Miami and D.Howard can average 25 points.

    Posted by Devonte | January 6, 2012, 8:55 pm
  5. R.Anderson,K.Korver,V.Wafer, & CJ Watson will open shots all the time Dwight comes to Chicago.

    Posted by Devonte | January 6, 2012, 9:01 pm
  6. Its because Howard wants the spotlight which Rose ownes he can easliy steal it from williams and when kobe reitres will be the face

    Posted by Dustin | January 7, 2012, 1:14 am
  7. Chicago would have a much better shot at beating Miami with Howard. They aren’t going to beat them without him Devonte. Even with him it wouldn’t be a sure thing.

    Posted by nightbladehunter | January 7, 2012, 10:06 am
    • No they wouldnt. How idiotic are you? Just because they have rose and howard means nothing. We will win because the Bulls are the best team in the NBA because of 1 reason. They work as a team. Its not all about Rose. Look at the stats for the Bulls. Best starting 5, and among the best 2nd line in terms of points and assists off the bench. Howard is good, yes. But a howard trade would ruin Chicago

      Posted by Tobolt | January 7, 2012, 10:43 am
      • The Bulls are already good as it is, why would you play around with a team that’s already #1 in the east? The only reason why you would break up this team without giving it a reasonable “go” is because you are already conceeding that the Heat or somebody else will beat the Bulls in the East so you might as well jumpstart the offseason early, by getting a top name center. Keep your parts. And the Magic wouldn’t likely send Dwight on his merily way to a top eastern conference rival.

        Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 7:50 am
  8. @ Tobolt You will win because of your deep bench and “better team?” Didn’t I hear this song and dance from Chicago fans last season? Didn’t Miami then go on to crush Chicago in 5 games with Chicago having home court?

    D-Rose is gonna get shut down by Lebron again…Chicago will again lose in 5 as the teams currently stand. And Miami should have home court this time around.

    Posted by nightbladehunter | January 7, 2012, 10:54 am
    • We’ll find out in a few weeks when we play the Heat in Miami, when I hope ‘Bron-Bron and Wade will be healthy. I want to see each team at full capacity so we can see what an Eastern Conference Finals may look like.

      If you ask me, it’s going to be a close game. It will most definitely be a GREAT game!

      Oh by the way, D-Rose wasn’t shut down by LeBron alone. He was doubled at the top of the key by Bron *AND* Bosh. Forced him to dish the ball and no one stepped up for the Bulls.

      Thus far, we’ve seen plenty examples of folks stepping up, most notably the lighter and motivated Boozer, Ronnie Brewer coming into his scoring groove, Rip Hamilton adding some production, and Luol Deng approaching All-star status.

      The Heat’s best addition is arguably the stout vet, Shane Battier. Defensively he brings alot to the table, and can hit the outside shot as well. He can take defensive assignments away from D-Wade and Lebron, so they can concentrate on scoring.

      Going to be VERY exciting, nonetheless. The playoff series between the two last year garnered the highest viewership in a playoff series ever. It can only get better!

      Posted by SweetHomeChicago | January 7, 2012, 11:40 am
      • @sweethomechicago

        We will find out yes, I think the teams split their 4 games this year 2-2. But lets say Miami loses 3 of 4 or all 4. So what? They lost all 3 in the regular season last year and still won the playoff series on Chicago’s home floor 4-1. Chicago has not added anyone that will change what Miami does vs Rose in the 4th Q. Rip at this point is a scrub. Not an allstar. And Boozer chokes every playoffs, he did it in Utah as well. It was a bad pickup for Chicago, I agree with those that say cut him.

        Posted by nightbladehunter | January 10, 2012, 9:51 am
      • The game yesterday was pretty amazing Lebron and Rose put on a show. What I was most suprised about was how easy the Heat found getting points inside the paint to be. I would have thought that Chicago would have clampped down inside but they didn’t really. And Bosh outplayed the entire Chicago front line. When you end games with two of your starters on the bench that is not a good sign at all. Especially when you are paying one of them 80 million.

        The one thing I wonder about Howard is what would stop teams from doing a hack a shaq on him. Because his free throw shooting is pretty bad. Thats what I would do in the 4th Q of a playoff game. Make him hit everything from the free throw line. Its his major weakness.

        But he said today that he would be willing to play for Chicago…so we will see if the bulls are willing to pull this trade off and if Orlando will bite.

        Posted by nightbladehunter | January 30, 2012, 6:19 pm
  9. So, this is how this site works…Write an article about Dwight going to every team in the NBA and why it makes sense, than bring the one article that fortunately is right when it happens forgetting about the rest…GIVE ME A BREAK!!!

    Posted by justin | January 7, 2012, 7:55 pm
  10. Makes no sense. If you’re going to criticize the Lakers for being weak talentwise if they traded both Pau and Bynum, why aren’t you applying the logic for Deng and Noah. Noah isn’t even a high ppg scorer, at least Bynum even with his body deficiencies, gives you back to the basket potential and a very high EFF rating. Losing Deng would mean losing someone who can do the dirty work in stopping the opposing scorer, I remember Deng doing it somewhat to Kobe earlier, who is going to guard Lebron in the Eastern Conference, Dwight? And have him pick up4 easy fouls? Who’s going to guard Bosh with Noah out, Dwight? The Lakers might not instantly become favorites, and would be very deficient at the 4 in the rare case the Lakers break the roster, two 7 footers, one being highly effiecient, one being the 2nd best center. The Lakers would likely amnesty someone, like say the bulls might to Boozer, but wouldn’t it also weaken you up front, and who would you replace him with during the offseason? the Lakers would at least amnesty albatross bench player contracts and hover around the luxury tax, and might get Deron Williams. The Bulls true, might have as good a chance of getting Dwight as anybody, but is it worth while doing rid of Deng and Taj in the process? At least Pau gives the Magic 18+PPG and a viable big man.

    Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 1:30 am
    • Dodoo, Thanks for the read. I disagree with you that Gasol/Bynum are equivalent to Deng/Noah. Gasol is an All-Star while Bynum WILL be an All-Star this year. Neither Deng nor Noah have ever been All-Stars, nor do I expect them to be. Therefore, in my opinion, the Lakers are giving up more talent in a Gasol/Bynum trade than the Bulls are with Deng/Noah.

      If the bulls amnesty Boozer, they will have enough cap space to go after another FA in addition to keeping Rose and Howard. Moreover, to your point about the Lakers’ bench players, you can only amnesty one player, not multiple players.

      Lastly, the Bulls would likely keep either Gibson or Asek to match up at the PF position, both very good defenders.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | January 10, 2012, 9:55 am
      • I agree definitely, that’s why when I was responding to your assertion I was making the argument that shouldn’t the same logic apply when you lose your #2 and #3 scoring options? In the Laker’s case Gasol is a 16 PPG player and Bynum is a 20 PPG player. So it would make no sense for them to trade Bynum+Gasol for Dwight + Hedo without them including at least an additional player, to help fill the Laker’s void at guard, like JJ, a Jameer, etc to make it worth the other 2 bigs. Orlando’s view is they are getting Laker’s strength in the western conference, and they’ll see it as their strength in the east, which is significant given the guys they have like Anderson, JJ, Duhon etc can spread the floor even better than the Lakers do with Gasol and Bynum in the lineup. Forget the franchise and forget the players involved in the trade for a sec. I won’t get into particulars but for example if the Nets were involved, they would have done the same trade the Lakers would likely end up working for Dwight with Orlando with a boat load of additional draft picks (according to sources Otis didn’t seem too interested, and should be even less interested now). Brook Lopez was 20PPG last season, Bynum is averaging the same, and has that much more size. But as we’ve heard Orlando would rather like to have established “veteran” players for them to contend, if not rebuild around for the near future. And why wouldn’t you when you are close to 90, in Mr. De Vos. That being the case, why wouldn’t Bynum and other considerations to be named later, be as good as Noah+Deng & draft picks, if the player they are losing in the inverse is averaging close to the same? With cash/player excemption etc. for Bynum and say somebody like Luke Walton (yes he sucks but he’s an expiring contract and would make the dollars match up), or Steve Blake.

        As far as Boozer being amnestied, I don’t that move. Who you can get as far as a free agent this summer, would likely average Boozer’s production which is around 14 PPG. And he’s been a one of the most reliable players if not the 2nd best player for a while, getting rid of not only him, but Noah+Deng if they were to leave for Dwight, would leave the Bulls razor thin. Sure you would rather get younger, and better, and it would work to your benefit, but for example I would rather give Boozer+Noah, instead of Deng, to Orlando. I don’t know what’s been discussed, but it’s a far better trade than giving up Deng and Noah for Dwight and Hedo. And much to my attention is that the strength of the Bull’s play is their very, very balanced scoring. Not to take anything away from Boozer but he’s allegedly one of the better scoring options I’m not saying it wouldn’t be interesting to see D Rose and Dwight, and somebody like Kyle Korver jack up 3’s, that’s already probably a better team in itself than the Orlando Magic right now, but come crunch time, and down the stretch team’s with solidified rosters with established chemistry, and depth, let alone youth, are likelier to survive. Which to me, says Bulls would be involved in a bidding war with not only the Lakers, and the rest of the league. The Bulls package was very formidable at the beginning of the season when Andrew Bynum was still low in the pecking order in L.A. It will be intersting to see what Orlando ends up taking for Dwight, but the Lakers are poised to make a run at Dwight this year, if anything possibly Deron, depending what happens with Dwight. But we’re miles away from all of this

        Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 1:11 pm
  11. Realist, of course Chicago would make the most sense as the destination for Howard; I don’t think there’s any reasonable debate on this, unless a Howard-for-Chris Bosh swap were to somehow materialize (odds of that happening: slimmer than none). The motivations that have been attributed to Howard as part of this process (endorsements and “alpha dog” status) do not speak well to his desire to win.

    I wanted to get your thoughts on something. Since Jordan’s second retirement, the Bulls have had a poor record with free-agent signings. Ben Wallace and Carlos Boozer were the only big names they’ve been able to bring in; Wallace was a bust and Boozer (at least so far) has inspired buyers’ remorse. Some have speculated that free agents are hesistant to pick Chicago because of the way that the Jordan-Pippen era ended, the perception being that ownership and management pushed them out the door before it was time. Do you think that had any impact on 2010, and do you think that is weighing on Howard at all?

    Posted by E-Dog | January 10, 2012, 5:44 am
    • It’s too much to give for Dwight, although I can understand your fantasy. But Deng would be valuable to every team, and so would Noah, and then you’re adding the other guard and cash.. that’s half your team, I hope you know what you’re doing by mortgaging your franchise for Dwight Howard and Hedo (not a great defender who jacks a lot of 3’s)

      Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 7:34 am
    • E-Dog, thanks for the read.

      The Bulls have most definitely been impacted in free agency because of Jordan/Pippen exit. However, things started to turn around because of 2 events:

      1.) John Paxson replaced Jerry Krause
      2.) Derrick Rose was drafted

      By 2010, I do not believe that the Jordan/Pippen curse was impacting the Bulls. The top 3 free agents were Lebron, Wade, and Bosh. They wanted to play together, but only Miami could accommodate all 3.The next best FA was Amare Stoudamire and the Bulls wanted no part of Amare given that no one was willing to insure his knees. That left Boozer, who was the next best FA at the time, but which in hindsight was a bad signing.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | January 10, 2012, 10:11 am
  12. @Realist…a couple of things about your post that I want to say.

    1. I think pretty much any trade that Orlando makes for Howard comes out as a net loss. The teams that can give back decent players also will have draft picks in the 20’s or later. Not the best place to pick up another Howard. And no player but Lebron is a fair 1-1 swap for him. And that trade wouldn’t happen of course.

    2. I think that the Lakers would be a good choice for Howard because LA will soon be able to rebuild on the fly as they have done many times. Howard and Kobe would draw D-Will to the Lakers I think. That would allow Kobe to focus on being a shooter and not a slashing scorer. It would also allow the Lakers to work inside out like they should be doing right now.

    Posted by nightbladehunter | January 10, 2012, 9:47 am
    • “the Lakers would be a good choice for Howard because LA will soon be able to rebuild on the fly as they have done many times”

      Outsiders may not know this, but one of the reasons why the Lakers famously said they would try and acquire BOTH CP3 & Dwight is because of their rushing to position themselves as early as possible, taking Kobe’s age into account to jumpstarting the “passing of the torch” to them so-to speak. But most importantly they would be setting themselves to rebuilding ” Time Warner billion-dollar TV network deal before it, and the CBA tax threshold/nuisances kicked in.

      Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 10:04 am
    • nightblade, thanks for your feedback. The only thing I would challenge is that Chicago CAN offer a lottery potential pick because of Charlotte’s #1. Therefore, unlike the other suitors, the Bulls can offer a pick that does not fall between 20-30.

      Also, the Lakers would not be able to draw D.will. Part of what I wanted to emphasize in the article is that Kobe’s salary slot is so significant, that even with a Pau/Bynum trade, they still would not be under the salary cap. Therefore, the only way they could get D-Will is with a trade to the Nets. And with Pau/Bynum gone, who would they have to offer?

      Posted by The NBA Realist | January 10, 2012, 10:37 am
      • If Kobe was willing to rework his contract it might be possible would it not? Or if D-Will was willing to take less money in exchange for a legit shot to win a title(or a number of titles). Assembling the other peices around them would be more of a problem I think. What if LA and NJ did a sign and trade for D-Will much like Miami did for James and Bosh?

        I still can’t see Orlando trading Howard to Chicago, I just can’t. Even though it would make a ton of sense for Chicago and it might be one of the better deals that Orlando was handed.

        I think that before the trade deadline Howard lands with the Lakers. Who then become one of the favorites in the West again. Idk if its enough to beat OKC still but it will put them right up with them.

        Right now as it stands without a trade bringing in another allstar I don’t see a way that Chicago can beat a healthy Miami in a 7 game series.

        Posted by nightbladehunter | January 10, 2012, 10:59 am
        • Kobe is not going to rework his contract and D Will will not take less money (and by less money I mean the 6 million per year, because that is the most the Lakers will be able to offer) in his prime. Moreover, an LA/NJ sign in trade would not work because LA is over the cap and would have to give back salary to the Nets. When Miami signed the Big 3, they were under the cap.

          Posted by The NBA Realist | January 10, 2012, 2:18 pm
          • I admit to not being 100 % sure how the money comes into play in trades in the NBA. If someone could explain it that would be great for understanding how trades work exactly.

            Is it not possible for LA to dump enough contracts to make room for D-Will?

            Posted by nightbladehunter | January 10, 2012, 2:55 pm
          • I am pretty sure Dwight can be offered more than $6 per year. Deron Williams is probably a better fit anyway, but I don’t know who could be traded away, Gasol comes to mind.
            I don’t know about the money involved as much, I know a sign and trade is not guaranteed, for example if he comes in during free agency. When Miami signed the big 3, they all mutually agreed to work out the money early on, and worry about the other pieces later.

            I could be wrong, and it would be harder to do than I am making it seem to be, but the Lakers would basically admit they likely won’t win it this year anyway, and would rather work out the financial kinks later, this summer, or more aggressively next 2 years.

            Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 3:39 pm
      • That’s based on the idea that somehow pairing up with Howard and Kobe isn’t attractive enough for him. And the Lakers wouldn’t be under the salary cap, and likely never will, given the circumstances 2 years from now. But it’s largely because they won’t really care due to the large influx of revenue from their Time Warner Cable deal. In hindsight the Lamar Odom “salary” dump is largely tied into this DWill/Dwight Howard scenario. But what’s largely missing in your statement is even if Dwill forwent his salary extension (which would pay him dividends now) with the Nets during the offseason, he would just opt to join as a free-agent, with the Lakers pitching the future view of the Lakers to Dwill. Kobe is earning around $25, Dwight we would assume would earn around $18, and Gasol (which I doubt will be packaged with Bynum, due to Bynum’s strides this year and giving them leverage in a trade), would be a viable piece IF the Nets are autonomous to the idea that Deron is so distraught by their fortunes at this juncture of the season, that they WILL lose him, and he won’t be going to the burrows next season. What Deron would like to do, in spite of the Lakers lack of financial flexibility is at least have the shot to win. Deron for one, if he wanted to consider going back home to Dallas, if he wanted to team up with Dwight anyway, why wouldn’t he/Dwight work a deal, after Dwight gets to L.A. to be here, if Deron wanted Dwight with the Nets?

        The problem with the Dallas idea, is that it would take enough time to muster up faith from Orlando’s brass, that they will convince him to stay, and that they would rebuild with Deron or someone like him in Orlando, and that likely won’t happen because as I see it, there would be so many good offers being sent to Orlando before the trade deadline, that they would probably have no choice but to not risk losing Dwight for nothing, knowing he won’t re-sign.

        I am doubtful that a Gasol+Bynum to Orlando for Dwight+Hedo won’t take place, unless and I am reading tea-leaves they included a guard to make it worth their while. But like I said, given Bynum’s production, there is no need to include Gasol in a deal given that right now, Dwight’s agent can only speak to 3 teams, and 2 of who are out of the running as of right now.

        Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 12:40 pm
        • I meant to say I was doubtful Gasol+Bynum will take place, given what they’d be giving up. I guess Andrew Bynum for Dwight straight up is the simplest deal that can/could be made.

          Posted by DODOO | January 10, 2012, 1:46 pm
  13. One Word: ADDIDAS! Now think about that and get back to me !!!

    P.S.> Those female comparisons made my day 😀

    Posted by Jade | January 15, 2012, 4:49 am
    • Jade, Thanks for the read. Adidas seems to be the most “justification”, although it didn’t stop Lebron and Wade who are both sponsored by Nike. Moreover, I would think that Howard would prioritize winning above anything else, including sponsorships – but anything is possible.

      Posted by The NBA Realist | January 15, 2012, 11:00 am
  14. It seems like Chicago would have been the optimal landing spot, in terms of winning, for any of the big names (non-point guard) who’ve switched teams recently. I believe either Lebron or Wade would have won a title there last year if healthy, and even sliding a guy like Carmelo or Amare or Bosh into that lineup might have been enough. Carlos Boozer was almost enough, and he’s clearly a few steps below any of those guys. Makes you wonder why nobody wants to go there.

    Posted by Lochpster | January 17, 2012, 10:42 pm
  15. And here is how Chicago pulls off the trade they need…
    From Orlando
    D. Howard
    H. Turkoglu

    From Chicago
    Luol Deng
    Joakim Noah
    Ronnie Brewer

    Trade works money wise…and makes sense for both teams. It makes sense because it improves Chicago and it makes sense because it allows Orlando to dump a bad contract and help them tank to get a better draft pick. Then they cut ties with a number of their higher paid players and all of the sudden they have cap space to play with along with a decent draft pick.

    Posted by nightbladehunter | March 12, 2012, 8:53 am
    • As a Bulls fan, I’d rather keep Deng than trade for Howard. It’s no guarantee that he signs, and he is our primary defender on LeBron in the postseason.

      Posted by pointguard40 | March 12, 2012, 12:09 pm
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